In the fifth session of the Cubicle Renegade Podcast I chat with Pat Flynn of Smart Passive Income.
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I met Pat in person last year at the Financial Bloggers Conference, but I had been listening to his podcast and reading his blog since before I started Pocket Changed in 2010. While Pat gets labeled into the “make money online” niche, his transparency and willingness to help people with learning to do things online should be a model for anyone building a personal brand.

In this episode we discuss Pat’s less known failures online, how to “be everywhere”, what to do when you feel stuck, and how to persevere in the face of failure.
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Things we talk about in this episode:
(1:57) - How Pat got started online before SPI
(9:12) - The importance of authenticity online
(15:24) - How to “be everywhere” online
(20:00) - Personal or non-personal brand?
(24:55) - Niche sites, affiliate marketing, and authority sites
(28:00) - What to do when you feel “stuck”
(35:45) - The importance of experimentation & failure
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Hey Caleb! Once again, I just wanted to thank you for having me on the show. I hope your readers find it useful and if anyone has any questions, please let me know! Cheers, and all the best!
Anytime Pat! It was great to hear more of the back story behind your success online. People so often see the result without all the hard work that came first.
Hey Caleb,
Delighted to discover your podcast - It looks and sounds sharp. I can see you are taking a high quality approach to all the details of producing a top notch product. Great to see you highlighting one of my favorite local fellow San Diegan online super stars and all-around good guys, Pat Flynn.
I look forward to tuning in to future episodes.

Amy Miyamoto
Thanks Amy. I’m glad you appreciate the production value and that you’re a fan of Pat as well.
Cheers!